[libreoffice-users] Format>Page window slow opening

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on
the drive.

Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this
for all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do
this a few months ago with an earlier version.

Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

[gordon cooper]

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a
vector based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to include code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing
work so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.

Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on
the drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did
this for all of the documents I created with large images. It did not
do this a few months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing
the documents over the weekend.

[Concerned Citizen]

Lol. Ouch!

I do remember virtual memory issues on cheap XP boxes with 256 mb ram ;-)

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a vector
based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to include code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing work
so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.
Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on the
drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this for
all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do this a few
months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

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[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

Yes, that reminded me to check it. I had it set for much larger
settings a couple version ago [64 bit DEB version] but it seemed to
reset the figures during one of the upgrades. It did fine keeping the
specialized color pallets I have installed along with the default ones,
but why the change for the memory usage?

I currently changed the memory option to 80MB for LO, 20 per object,
remove from memory 20 seconds, and 20 objects.

It works a better when moving the 3 images around, but it took about 30
seconds to bring up the Format>Page window, so I could change the
document's margins. That is my real problem. I do not remember it
being so slow with the last 5.2 version I had installed before switching
to 5.3.x. I could have a simple all text document, or one with images,
and it still takes a long time to view the Page formatting options.

Post by Concerned Citizen
Lol. Ouch!
I do remember virtual memory issues on cheap XP boxes with 256 mb ram ;-)

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a vector
based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to include code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing work
so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.
Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on the
drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this for
all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do this a few
months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

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[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
I am loosing my RAM to LO until it slows right down, I looked about and
there are a number of bugs lodged and I have some recollection (vague)
about LO 5.6 having resolved much of it. So you could try going back to
5.2 if that improves speed and hopefully some improvements will be
backported to a release before 5.6.
It may also be nothing to do with these bugs I experience, but it is
simple to go back to 5.2 to see if that fixes it and possibly check out
the bugzilla https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch
as often someone has had similar experiences but the situation has been
resolved in the bug checking.

Steve

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
Yes, that reminded me to check it. I had it set for much larger
settings a couple version ago [64 bit DEB version] but it seemed to
reset the figures during one of the upgrades. It did fine keeping the
specialized color pallets I have installed along with the default
ones, but why the change for the memory usage?
I currently changed the memory option to 80MB for LO, 20 per object,
remove from memory 20 seconds, and 20 objects.
It works a better when moving the 3 images around, but it took about
30 seconds to bring up the Format>Page window, so I could change the
document's margins. That is my real problem. I do not remember it
being so slow with the last 5.2 version I had installed before
switching to 5.3.x. I could have a simple all text document, or one
with images, and it still takes a long time to view the Page
formatting options.

Post by Concerned Citizen
Lol. Ouch!
I do remember virtual memory issues on cheap XP boxes with 256 mb ram ;-)

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a vector
based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to include code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing work
so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.
Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on the
drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this for
all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do this a few
months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

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[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

What would you suggest I have my memory options increased to?

On this dual core laptop, I have a Intel B950 processor with 4 GB of
RAM. I do have only 30-40 GB free space on the drive, though.

This laptop is the one I use for emailing and document creation. My
newer one has heat issues [a different thread] so currently I do not use
it much.

So what should be the numbers for the various memory size options? I am
about to do a "sudo apt-get purge libreoffice?" command instead of the
"remove" option command. Then I would reinstall LibreOffice and add the
newest color pallets I have been working on every so often. I know that
the color pallet files work fine, but I only use them for very specific
projects.

I was also wondering if Steve had the LibreOffice version number correct
- 5.6.x? Since the newest version seems to be listed as 5.4.0, I hope he
was talking about that version. I do not want to wait that long for
these memory "bugs" issues to be fixed.

Post by Steve Edmonds
Hi.
I am loosing my RAM to LO until it slows right down, I looked about
and there are a number of bugs lodged and I have some recollection
(vague) about LO 5.6 having resolved much of it. So you could try
going back to 5.2 if that improves speed and hopefully some
improvements will be backported to a release before 5.6.
It may also be nothing to do with these bugs I experience, but it is
simple to go back to 5.2 to see if that fixes it and possibly check
out the bugzilla
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch as often
someone has had similar experiences but the situation has been
resolved in the bug checking.
Steve

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
Yes, that reminded me to check it. I had it set for much larger
settings a couple version ago [64 bit DEB version] but it seemed to
reset the figures during one of the upgrades. It did fine keeping
the specialized color pallets I have installed along with the default
ones, but why the change for the memory usage?
I currently changed the memory option to 80MB for LO, 20 per object,
remove from memory 20 seconds, and 20 objects.
It works a better when moving the 3 images around, but it took about
30 seconds to bring up the Format>Page window, so I could change the
document's margins. That is my real problem. I do not remember it
being so slow with the last 5.2 version I had installed before
switching to 5.3.x. I could have a simple all text document, or one
with images, and it still takes a long time to view the Page
formatting options.

Post by Concerned Citizen
Lol. Ouch!
I do remember virtual memory issues on cheap XP boxes with 256 mb ram ;-)
On Jul 17, 2017 7:54 PM, "gordon cooper"

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a vector
based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to
include
code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing work
so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.
Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on the
drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this for
all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do this a few
months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

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[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

OK I downgraded to the 5.2.7 instead of 5.3.3.

Instead of about 30 seconds to load, it took 3 or 4 seconds.

I also decided to redo the Memory's Image Cache.
Use for LibreOffice: 140 MB
Memory per object: 30.0
Remove from memory after: 00:10 [default?]

Should I increase these numbers?

I do hope this "bug" gets fixed in the 5.4.x line, or even the later
5.3.x line. Once version 5.4.0 comes out fully, then the 5.3.x line
should become the "stable" line.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
What would you suggest I have my memory options increased to?
On this dual core laptop, I have a Intel B950 processor with 4 GB of
RAM. I do have only 30-40 GB free space on the drive, though.
This laptop is the one I use for emailing and document creation. My
newer one has heat issues [a different thread] so currently I do not
use it much.
So what should be the numbers for the various memory size options? I
am about to do a "sudo apt-get purge libreoffice?" command instead of
the "remove" option command. Then I would reinstall LibreOffice and
add the newest color pallets I have been working on every so often. I
know that the color pallet files work fine, but I only use them for
very specific projects.
I was also wondering if Steve had the LibreOffice version number
correct - 5.6.x? Since the newest version seems to be listed as 5.4.0,
I hope he was talking about that version. I do not want to wait that
long for these memory "bugs" issues to be fixed.

Post by Steve Edmonds
Hi.
I am loosing my RAM to LO until it slows right down, I looked about
and there are a number of bugs lodged and I have some recollection
(vague) about LO 5.6 having resolved much of it. So you could try
going back to 5.2 if that improves speed and hopefully some
improvements will be backported to a release before 5.6.
It may also be nothing to do with these bugs I experience, but it is
simple to go back to 5.2 to see if that fixes it and possibly check
out the bugzilla
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch as often
someone has had similar experiences but the situation has been
resolved in the bug checking.
Steve

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
Yes, that reminded me to check it. I had it set for much larger
settings a couple version ago [64 bit DEB version] but it seemed to
reset the figures during one of the upgrades. It did fine keeping
the specialized color pallets I have installed along with the
default ones, but why the change for the memory usage?
I currently changed the memory option to 80MB for LO, 20 per object,
remove from memory 20 seconds, and 20 objects.
It works a better when moving the 3 images around, but it took about
30 seconds to bring up the Format>Page window, so I could change the
document's margins. That is my real problem. I do not remember it
being so slow with the last 5.2 version I had installed before
switching to 5.3.x. I could have a simple all text document, or one
with images, and it still takes a long time to view the Page
formatting options.

Post by Concerned Citizen
Lol. Ouch!
I do remember virtual memory issues on cheap XP boxes with 256 mb ram ;-)
On Jul 17, 2017 7:54 PM, "gordon cooper"

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a vector
based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to
include
code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing work
so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.
Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on the
drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this for
all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do this a few
months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

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[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
My symptoms are similar to
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99763

With comment;
The large scale memory leaking seems to be fixed
Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha0+
Steve

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
What would you suggest I have my memory options increased to?
On this dual core laptop, I have a Intel B950 processor with 4 GB of
RAM. I do have only 30-40 GB free space on the drive, though.
This laptop is the one I use for emailing and document creation. My
newer one has heat issues [a different thread] so currently I do not
use it much.
So what should be the numbers for the various memory size options? I
am about to do a "sudo apt-get purge libreoffice?" command instead of
the "remove" option command. Then I would reinstall LibreOffice and
add the newest color pallets I have been working on every so often. I
know that the color pallet files work fine, but I only use them for
very specific projects.
I was also wondering if Steve had the LibreOffice version number
correct - 5.6.x? Since the newest version seems to be listed as 5.4.0,
I hope he was talking about that version. I do not want to wait that
long for these memory "bugs" issues to be fixed.

Post by Steve Edmonds
Hi.
I am loosing my RAM to LO until it slows right down, I looked about
and there are a number of bugs lodged and I have some recollection
(vague) about LO 5.6 having resolved much of it. So you could try
going back to 5.2 if that improves speed and hopefully some
improvements will be backported to a release before 5.6.
It may also be nothing to do with these bugs I experience, but it is
simple to go back to 5.2 to see if that fixes it and possibly check
out the bugzilla
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch as often
someone has had similar experiences but the situation has been
resolved in the bug checking.
Steve

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
Yes, that reminded me to check it. I had it set for much larger
settings a couple version ago [64 bit DEB version] but it seemed to
reset the figures during one of the upgrades. It did fine keeping
the specialized color pallets I have installed along with the
default ones, but why the change for the memory usage?
I currently changed the memory option to 80MB for LO, 20 per object,
remove from memory 20 seconds, and 20 objects.
It works a better when moving the 3 images around, but it took about
30 seconds to bring up the Format>Page window, so I could change the
document's margins. That is my real problem. I do not remember it
being so slow with the last 5.2 version I had installed before
switching to 5.3.x. I could have a simple all text document, or one
with images, and it still takes a long time to view the Page
formatting options.

Post by Concerned Citizen
Lol. Ouch!
I do remember virtual memory issues on cheap XP boxes with 256 mb ram ;-)
On Jul 17, 2017 7:54 PM, "gordon cooper"

Nearest thing I have had to this was years ago when beta testing a vector
based
CAD programme on Win98. The author of the CAD had forgotten to
include
code
to clear the virtual memory used for calculations during any drawing work
so that
the virtual mem and the RAM filled up and the computer eventually stopped.
Gordon.

Post by Tim-L--Elmira-NY
I am using version 5.3.3.2 on Ubuntu 16.04LTS with MATE desktop. The
laptop is a dual core with 4 GB memory with about 30 GB free space on the
drive.
Yesterday, I was making several documents with large images. When I
clicked on Format > Page, it took over a minute to open up. It did this for
all of the documents I created with large images. It did not do this a few
months ago with an earlier version.
Has anyone come across this issue before? It was a real pain doing the
documents over the weekend.

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